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Mr. Brueggemann: That’s exactly right. Laughs

Mr. Brueggemann: That’s exactly right. Laughs

Ms. Tippett: You stated someplace an additional interview because they don’t always get written down correctly— i’m always a little bit careful about quoting other interviews. But i desired to inquire of you about it outside them— you said that you really don’t think that’s about particularities of guilt or sin, but about a sense of impending chaos, which goes back to that first prophetic text you read because it’s very intriguing — that some of these sexual issues that are so galvanizing and so polarizing in our time in churches and. Have you been stating that individuals have a feeling of impending chaos, and for some explanation, perhaps since these things are so intimate, this is just what they latch onto?